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hypatia238 | Curious, what do you guys think of it? TOB is unknown so the houses are not accurate.
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ScandinavianCrab | Personally I dread hard aspects between sun and/or moon to Saturn. But in this case the sun-Jupiter sextile might smooth things up. With the Leo sun and the cancer "stellium" it feels like a very loyal and powerful relationship. It's hard though to say without birth times. |
sassaqua | Mars, Venus and Pluto only in challenging aspects to the rest of the chart would be a worry for me. But possibly a fun ride depending on what you can handle/are in to. |
hypatia238 | ^^ hahaha good point, there is mars conjunct pluto square jupiter but Pluto also squares Uranus so perhaps a highly sexual relationship with a kinky side perhaps on and off but then with Venus conjunct Pluto they are likely deeply in love too in addition to very attracted to each other sexually. I just want to mention that this Davison is not of me. This is just a fun exercise. |
hypatia238 | quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: ^^ hahaha good point, there is mars conjunct pluto square jupiter but Pluto also squares Uranus so perhaps a highly sexual relationship with a kinky side perhaps on and off but then with Venus conjunct Pluto they are likely deeply in love too in addition to very attracted to each other sexually.I just want to mention that this Davison is not of me. This is just a fun exercise.
However if this energy is not channeled sexually that mars conjunct pluto square jupiter with pluto squaring uranus too can manifest with intense fights that can lead to aggressive outbursts out of the blue that can be categorized as abusive yet the two stay together bc they are "in love" (venus conjunct pluto). So yes that mars conjunct pluto square jupiter can be intense in a good way or in a bad way.
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hypatia238 | I do love that nodal kite though with southnode conjunct mercury sextile Moon and Chiron. This relationship has great potential to help the two natives heal emotional wounds from the past. |
sassaqua | Yeah.. that kite is not really a kite because it's to abstract points (nodes) in the chart, not planets. Adding to what you say above re abuse and fights, I'm thinking that being so close to the south node will exacerbate what you say because there will be this drawing back to the "comfort" zone of south node. But, in reality, south node is not necessarily that comfortable. So will be long drawn out relationship full of "passion": power-game fights, and make ups.
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sassaqua | Taking it another level though, I often wonder, in such composites that seem obviously hard with not exiting smooth aspects: how much impact can the natals have in mitigating trouble? Maybe one of the people have an easy aspect out and can with effort, guide the relationship around such troubles. |
hypatia238 | quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Yeah.. that kite is not really a kite because it's to abstract points (nodes) in the chart, not planets.Adding to what you say above re abuse and fights, I'm thinking that being so close to the south node will exacerbate what you say because there will be this drawing back to the "comfort" zone of south node. But, in reality, south node is not necessarily that comfortable. So will be long drawn out relationship full of "passion": power-game fights, and make ups.
Well The southnode is conjunct mercury exact (under 1d) so its activating the nodes hence I do consider it a nodal kite. But great feedback perhaps you are right yes: "So will be long drawn out relationship full of "passion": power-game fights, and make ups" I see your point about the southnode, the southnode is a double edge sword but in this case with the nodal kite and mercury on the southnode sextile moon and chiron is like they can talk about about past wounds with each other and facilitate healing of such with the relationship. I think the kite also helps them repair and heal from those power-game fights more quickly if that is how that energy ends up manifesting for them providing the potential for them to learn from the fights too. |
hypatia238 | quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Taking it another level though, I often wonder, in such composites that seem obviously hard with not exiting smooth aspects: how much impact can the natals have in mitigating trouble?Maybe one of the people have an easy aspect out and can with effort, guide the relationship around such troubles.
Good question. But this composite does have moon conjunct jupiter and venus conjunct pluto and that kite since mercury conjuncts the Southnode and sextiles the moon and chiron so there are soft aspects and Jupiter conjunct Moon is fun and light. |
sassaqua | Jupiter enlarges and expands. Conjunct the Moon here, it will blow up the emotional hurt. In my estimate. It's a shame the thread cannot be seen when commenting because by the time I'm here I forget what else is there! Anyhow, given that conjunction, including the Pluto challenged business, all the Mercury will talk about is how much they are hurt and who did what to who. That Kite is based in a NN; general consensus states that planetary pattern are only between planets, and why I made the statement. It is no doubt still worth pondering the Node axis dynamic here considering it's tagging that stellium. |
sassaqua | The Saturn trine might provide that Jupiter/Moon emotionalism some perspective and practical methodical stability to move forward? |
hypatia238 | quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Jupiter enlarges and expands. Conjunct the Moon here, it will blow up the emotional hurt. In my estimate.
Yes that is true if that mars conjunct pluto square jupiter is manifesting in a negative way with Moon conjuncting Jupiter as well it would blow up the emotional hurt BUT if is manifesting in a positive way like sexually that moon conjunct jupiter would be experienced quite differently. I feel that if one of the natives has severe anger issues or both of them then I would worry about this davison manifesting in a negative way but if the people that have this davison don't have anger issues and just have a high sex drive this davison could be amazing in how it manifests, it can be cathartic and great for healing not to mention a deep bond would be present with moon conjunct jupiter and venus conjunct pluto. So I feel in my most cases this would play out in a positive way but in some cases it can play out really negatively, it depends on the character of the natives that make up this relationship.
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hypatia238 | quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: The Saturn trine might provide that Jupiter/Moon emotionalism some perspective and practical methodical stability to move forward?
Good point, I appreciate your feedback, it has helped me see both sides, negative and positive, of how this davison can manifest. |
sassaqua | "I feel that if one of the natives has severe anger issues or both of them then I would worry about this davison manifesting in a negative way but if the people that have this davison don't have anger issues and just have a high sex drive this davison could be amazing in how it manifests, it can be cathartic and great for healing not to mention a deep bond would be present with moon conjunct jupiter and venus conjunct pluto." Yes, I agree with you. Personally (as I don't have much Pluto), I think it would take a special sort to cope with this! Thank you too.. it's great to get to the nitty gritties and unpack all the variables with others to check ones own logic and processes |
Randall | Bump! |